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Making sense of immigration and executive power in Trump's second term

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President Donald Trump speaks on the campaign trail in Tampa in 2020. "I think people should be asking, how much power does a president have in a democracy where the founders very carefully set out a system where the three branches of government would compete and check each other," NPR roving national correspondent Frank Langfitt says.

On "Florida Matters," former DHS Secretary Jeh Johnson talks immigration policy, and NPR's Frank Langfitt turns his foreign correspondent lens on the U.S.

In his first month back in the White House, President Donald Trump has moved quickly to roll out restrictions on immigration and stop diversity, equity and inclusion initiatives. And he’s turned to a key ally from his 2024 campaign, billionaire Elon Musk, to slash jobs and federal spending.

NPR roving national correspondent Frank Langfitt joined "Florida Matters" to share insights into how the administration is shaking up the federal government.

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NPR's Frank Langfitt spent 18 years reporting from China, the U.K., Ukraine and other countries before his current assignment. He sat down to talk with WUSF's Matthew Peddie about how the U.S. has changed and how he covers it as a reporter.

Before his current assignment, Langfitt was a foreign correspondent for NPR, reporting from China, Ukraine and the U.K., among other places. Recently, Langfitt was at the St. Petersburg Conference on World Affairs, and he stopped by WUSF’s St. Petersburg studio to talk about what it’s like to come back and report on the United States.

“It’s dramatically different. The country I left, there was an agreement on facts. That’s no longer the case,” said Langfitt. “It was polarized, but not remotely like the way that it is now.”

Langfitt said he takes the same approach to reporting on America that he did as a foreign correspondent. And that means getting into the community and talking to people.

“I find … in the United States, people mix less and less, and we know the political geography of the country. To me, the best thing that I can do is get out there and just travel and travel and talk.”

During the 2024 election campaign, immigration dominated headlines, and it came up time and time again as one of the things people told WUSF they were worried about.

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Jeh Johnson served as secretary of the Department of Homeland Security from 2013 to 2017 during President Barack Obama's second term.

Jeh Johnson was the Department of Homeland Security secretary during President Barackk Obama’s second term. He’s keenly aware of the challenge of securing the country’s borders, and he joined "Florida Matters" to reflect on this new administration’s approach to immigration.

At the start of February, "Florida Matters" stopped by the Church of the Palms, a Presbyterian congregation in Sarasota, where Johnson had been invited to give a lecture by the Sarasota Institute of Lifetime Learning.

Before his talk, he sat down with us to chat about what makes immigration and border security so challenging. By the time we packed up our recording equipment, the church’s sprawling parking lot was full ─ one sign that interest in the issue remains high as the Trump administration rolls out tough enforcement policies.

“To deal with the problem of our southern border effectively, we as a nation have to address the underlying push factors through sustained, smart investment in improving the economies, the integrity of the governments in the countries where people are fleeing,” said Johnson.

“When I was secretary of DHS, I used to tell our immigration enforcement people ─ including [current border czar] Tom Homan, by the way, who worked for [Immigration and Customs Enforcement] when I was secretary of the whole DHS ─ 'do your jobs, enforce the law.' But one controversial incident in a particular community can undermine your entire mission,” Johnson added.

“Snatch a grandmother off a church steps one Sunday or pull a child out of junior high school who's undocumented in front of the cameras and that will become a highly controversial single incident that can undermine your ability to work effectively in the communities where you need local law enforcement support.”

I am the host of WUSF’s weekly public affairs show Florida Matters, where I get to indulge my curiosity in people and explore the endlessly fascinating stories that connect this community.
As the executive producer of WUSF's Florida Matters, I aim to create a show and podcast that makes all Floridians feel seen and heard. That's also my assignment as a producer for The Florida Roundup. In any role, my goal is always to amplify the voices often overlooked.